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ladies and gentlemen here next to me is

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stefan denayer the

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first book written

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extraterrestrial civilization before we

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start talking about this i would first

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like to introduce stefan then de to you

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stefan den ouden is a pseudonym

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indeed what are you

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i am 46 you are married and married  i

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have four children the

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netherlands if you live in the netherlands do

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your own serve your bread

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i am a

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member of the board of a medium-sized company

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the reason we are here we are on

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north beveland

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behind us schouwen-duiveland

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lies in between  the eastern scheldt

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the reason we are standing here is because

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the first chapter of this book

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describes how you

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had an encounter with

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aliens coming from a planet

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called year ga that encounter will

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take place your ship is now going you

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sailing yacht sailed on the eastern scheldt

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probably a little more have here just

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before in a little less deep want nice

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a little more but the west seen from here

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more kilometers far with like

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coil that meeting took place as a

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collision between

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this ship and submerged

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spaceship

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the  in fact space discus

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that meets her and the description in

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as those of flying saucers

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collide that that discus sailed against your your ship

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on the ship in the late screens and

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ran on and submerged discus

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that that was completely submerged

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not at all  at all but in what

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started above water was no more than a

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flat plate and that seemed to be invisible

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in the dark what happened and after that

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it turned out that the ship

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could not get rid of this discus afterwards it

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turned out that he was magnetic to the plate  enter

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and this and made contact

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speak contact with the

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occupants of this discus i have

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read that you

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were then packed full of information for two days

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about the planets your own

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indeed in those two days you have

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received so much information that i

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can hardly imagine  that there have

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been two earthly days that you

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pull that information

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yes the

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way in which the knowledge transfer everything

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as described in the book

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has taken place on another other than us

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where the

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knowledge transfer is usually done is material

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memory function that is possible there

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they can rejoice plant mutations

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by means of radiation

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happen as follows you were

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moved and

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large kind of television screen longer and

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sharper image

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three-dimensional image was seen and

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then as radiation became

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inaudible and invisible

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information was planted you become a

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voice that  loose words whose are you going to

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draw attention to certain details

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of the image the height the width the

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depth relationship between two things

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and so on but put a normal image

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as we know it

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with the same speed of movement or

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no it was an image that

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became completely different  it was like looking through

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a window into reality

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how did the communication come about

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that happen with a

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summer seal pronounce installation so

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through an electrical system as far as we

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know there is no possibility to

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speak directly to these beings

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that that piece  explainable by the

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difference in frequency

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its angry to use very different wavelength then

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spoke english where i am just starting to

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establish it as the language they

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have picked up from our wireless information

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and run so from radio and tv

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i assume  I don't know

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she that goes through a translation machine that

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gives that again do a short courageous

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gentlemen at short intervals

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and those were voices of doctors knocking people off

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a bbc news

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newsreader yes men and women

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who do okay so you come  that that's exactly how

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you could hear the exactly that the

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different voices

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all mixed up fragments of brother even

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sometimes parts of rotate differently

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they pronounced it was clearly a

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mixture of the voices people have translated the

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stuff fragments of our language

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and and those fragments are  so

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it all different voices

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long time these creatures his eyes again meters

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but  the big difference and dimensions

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are not so visible in the shape of torso

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arms and head but in their legs we are

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much shorter and heavy legs have a

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very strange dribble and the way

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of walking and the large relatively

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long length of the arms allow them to  who

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also use to keep a balance

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when they threaten to fall the

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dribble and the lamps means they are a

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very short went there is very short

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such as a Lilliputian walks

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so we have a completely different face shape

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they therefore have a much more heavily

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a slot through the head which gives the

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skull the impression of

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being divided into two compartments

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that is understandable on the one hand when you

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consider that  in a higher air pressure

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with higher frequencies was driven in

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a bird a child longer and certainly see

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because they have too little wingspan

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yellower

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eyeball in which a diamond shape is

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located and the  eyes are deeper in

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the front or a skull

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better protected by is where

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to the coat of a smooth bells

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it makes so in pressed it  hairs are

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not cut or or when shaken off what

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different colors gray and brown

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say no dentures but the

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curious way is not made in the

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form of an original teeth mine they

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have  just seamlessly strip this

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that go over each other like scissors

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and that is more efficient because there

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are fiction and tricks and food scraps

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is days and then the floor deficiency

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a philosophy of life there the  clothing on a

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year go has a different function a

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different meaning than with us with us this

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is the piece of status out of

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weightiness importance you want to

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rob jorg it's all different

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actually the fact that they are of much less

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value there  attach to the covering function

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temperature differences there are less

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the neighbors us so that we study clothing

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such an insulating function as we

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need knowledge and shame sent to

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like the book museum words words

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words beach scene in described  if

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description of a nudist camp

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said they did wear clothes they did not have the

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decorations

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I had no covering

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function because I called it anti

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clothing again it was your pure and

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all bands constructions that

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actually had no covering function

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just a year aesthetic function

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month cool list of dior together

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neurotic stimulating function

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was eroticism  not different from

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woman there is  rejected

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for development through many human

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contacts and one finds the

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isolation of two people who

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commit to each other and that an eternal day

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is happy with every married person so also for

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social reasons for reasons  of the of the

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society in those large living cylinders

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blonde these people on the vintage

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yes that was completely different from me my

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first place is that the cause is a

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completely different social and and family

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there for that matter possibly

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she lived in and great big

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housing units basically kind of the

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outside are big glass cylinders

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more than 300 meters in diameter

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over a hundred meters high with a

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big domed roof that enclosed in a garden

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and which was completely closed off from the

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open air, that citizen is a

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consequence of their climate conditions and in

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such a unit round about 10,000 people

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that you use and spots

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people live in groups of about 20 to

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25  people together and was and a family

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that was not a family that was a group of

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6 7 couples with a number of children but

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it was very different it could

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grace be older people again with no

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children and that could be the boy

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rich in children families with more

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really less  couples more children that

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freedom there is one of the first

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characteristics that we are confronted with

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ourselves the houses are so purposefully

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and efficiently furnished with such

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complicated equipment that you see in these

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houses where it is possible

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because they are such large units that there are  there

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is no more housework to do

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difficult to understand it has been

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finished for a long time no me neither they have

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a system of ready-made

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meals

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that come from cupboards and friezes are

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there anything else that has been mentioned this book

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continue  not my darling in a higher place

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think of us how do you view

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us as a

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bunch of tinkerers who haven't gotten very far yet

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yes I must say that is clearly described in the book

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don't see us there are a bunch of tinkerers

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just recognize that humanity is still in

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a younger stage of evolution than they are they

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consider us to be

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immature and a race that is

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trying to

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reach adulthood it is not the case that  she

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so it's not even 9

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whole this is definitely not the case but it is

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true she is us serious

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warning also contains a serious

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warning that for example the

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destruction of humanity you

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heard by after show complete would

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take place

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that it would not only be the material

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would be destruction of

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human life but also of

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immortal human existence

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and that is a very difficult no files

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superior to understand so you can

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put you

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can explain it with an example you

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well you could say so if we just put

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some conventional terms  speaking that

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our soul

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is connected to the living generation

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of people everything is the living generation

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of people no longer exists when

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human evolution has stopped

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that we will therefore no longer rise with our creativity

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once all previous creativity

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is around our soul then  according to their

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creativity exponent has been discontinued

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so just

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what is the bible called eternal

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the plants grow in the flora that is

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very different

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that is not too bad i really had to

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say that the different ones

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are less actually fantasy would have

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already shown it together in the

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illustrations can say are built or

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much higher wind forces the neighborhood the

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big difference high trees are not there

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so thomas and much further developed and

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they have peculiar ring-shaped trees

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that stand in a circle with a hennis

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comment  in the middle an illustration grows outwards

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everything happens on part heavy winter

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forces on heavy conditions was here

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going also heavy built are will and

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muscular that we in the Netherlands let shadow

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move that

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go and on their planet how is the

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traffic

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yes that  is completely different when we

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move we feed on wheels or on

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wings but they move

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forward in and paul shoes door

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hollow

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magnetic rule because

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children extinguished a transport system

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well how i a system that

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moves without wear is a

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rail system and they know rail vehicles

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that look a bit like our trains

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but their cars move and two

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leaders

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have a piece of ground away from the

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residential cylinders to the main

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thoroughfare

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and ride on wheels with it's very

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little sister the wheels

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once they reach the  wrong are have

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come climbers in the rails up and

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hang his wrist green on the roof

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and as soon as the rail vehicles have

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become then they are wear-free

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system but also with what force

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they move electrically every

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reason is more the magnetic fields are

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but they have  here ssst may not even be

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less completely different way because we

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can do that but it is me

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working without wires and coils and so

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they have saved and systems too general

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universal transport system on that

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planet that is striking

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the I have made the effort to

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is all the calculations

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I have left is all the things he

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mentioned I have calculated

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and this braking system taking

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stopping and accelerating into account and arranging the rail

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can transport a million 300 and

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per hour

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in other words in those new times

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a son of  god job

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press insane that is an efficiency

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that actually leaves us as a thought world

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and then you suddenly realize that

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technically we are actually still bunglers

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then I would that some guy who gets over your

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back

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because we are finished  I hope still

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at the very beginning of some kind of technical

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revolution that might be our forum of